JOKER vs VENUS: which needs more amplifier?

The Moondrop JOKER is 68Ω at 94.3 dB/mW; the Moondrop VENUS is 18Ω at 82.6 dB/mW. This page covers what they ask of an amplifier, not how they sound.

The VENUS needs 11.7 dB more than the JOKER to reach the same loudness — 55 mW against 3.7 mW.

The numbers that decide it

SpecificationJOKERVENUS
Impedance68 Ω18 Ω
Sensitivity94.3 dB/mW82.6 dB/mW
Sensitivity (voltage)106.0 dB/V100.0 dB/V
Power for 100 dB3.7 mW55 mW
Voltage for 100 dB0.50 V0.99 V
Current for 100 dB7.4 mA55.3 mA
Highest source impedance
that leaves them alone (one-eighth rule)
8.50 Ω2.25 Ω
Sources that reach 100 dB
out of 280
280225

Where the two part company

55 of the 280 sources have the power for the JOKER but not for the VENUS — Apple USB-C dongle (US), Apple USB-C dongle (EU), Generic CX31993 dongles, 52 more.

1 source is low enough in output impedance for the JOKER under the one-eighth rule but not for the VENUS (Shanling H5).

225 of the 280 sources here reach 100 dB on both.

What each one needs from 80 to 105 dB

The VENUS is more demanding than 98% of the 567 non-electrostatic models in this database; the JOKER than 87%.

dB SPLJOKER powerJOKER voltageVENUS powerVENUS voltage
800.04 mW50 mV0.55 mW99 mV
850.12 mW89 mV1.7 mW0.18 V
900.37 mW0.16 V5.5 mW0.31 V
951.2 mW0.28 V17 mW0.56 V
1003.7 mW0.50 V55 mW0.99 V
10512 mW0.89 V174 mW1.77 V

The cheapest source that satisfies both

SourcePriceHeadroom, JOKERHeadroom, VENUSOutput impedanceNoise
FiiO KA11$2914.1 dB6.3 dB0.7 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO BTR13$5911.0 dB3.2 dB0.6 Ω1.0 µV
iBasso DC03 Pro$6910.9 dB0.0 dB0.12 Ω0.9 µV

Of the 280 sources here, 225 reach 100 dB on both. 68 of them also publish an output impedance low enough for both under the one-eighth rule and a noise figure that stays below the audible-hiss threshold with both.

The cheapest of the 68 is the FiiO KA11, at $29. It leaves 14.1 dB of headroom on the JOKER and 6.3 dB on the VENUS, its output impedance is 0.7 Ω against a one-eighth limit of 8.50 Ω and 2.25 Ω, and its noise figure puts the hiss floor 29 dB and 35 dB below the 20 dB SPL this site treats as the point where a quiet room stops hiding it.

Try any other source.

What each sheet prints, and what it is worth

ModelAs printedToleranceStandard
JOKER15Hz- 22kHznot printednot printed
 20Hz-20kHz (IEC60318-4, -3dB)-3 dBIEC60318-4
VENUS6Hz-80kHznot printednot printed
 20Hz-20kHz (IEC60318-4, ±3dB)±3 dBIEC60318-4

Moondrop prints two ranges, “15Hz- 22kHz” and “20Hz-20kHz (IEC60318-4, -3dB)”, for the JOKER and two ranges, “6Hz-80kHz” and “20Hz-20kHz (IEC60318-4, ±3dB)”, for the VENUS.

JOKER: The wide range Moondrop prints for the Joker stops at 22 kHz — narrower than the headline range on most of its own models.

Both sheets print a tolerance, which is rare enough to be worth pointing at: only 58 of the 490 models with a printed range do. These two ranges can be set against each other, because each of them says how far down the response is allowed to be at the ends.

Not a measurement; maker by maker.

Both pages in full

Both have a page of their own. In full: Moondrop JOKER and Moondrop VENUS. Every figure on this page comes from what Moondrop published, or is derived from it — what that maker publishes, counted.

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