Freya Vanir vs Sylvie: which needs more amplifier?

The Kinera Freya Vanir is 16Ω at 88.0 dB/mW; the Kinera Sylvie is 16Ω at 107.0 dB (no reference unit printed). This page covers what they ask of an amplifier, not how they sound.

The Freya Vanir needs 19.0 dB more than the Sylvie to reach the same loudness — 16 mW against 0.20 mW.

The numbers that decide it

SpecificationFreya VanirSylvie
Impedance16 Ω16 Ω
Sensitivity88.0 dB/mW107.0 dB
Sensitivity (voltage)106.0 dB/V125.0 dB/V
Power for 100 dB16 mW0.20 mW
Voltage for 100 dB0.50 V57 mV
Current for 100 dB31.5 mA3.5 mA
Highest source impedance
that leaves them alone (one-eighth rule)
2.00 Ω2.00 Ω
Sources that reach 100 dB
out of 280
262280

One caution before reading the rows. Kinera Sylvie printed a decibel figure with no reference unit, so this page reads it as per milliwatt. If it is really per volt, that model needs far more than the table says. Why the two readings differ by so much.

Where the two part company

18 of the 280 sources have the power for the Sylvie but not for the Freya Vanir — Apple USB-C dongle (US), Apple USB-C dongle (EU), JadeAudio JA11, 15 more.

10 sources stay below the audible-hiss threshold with the Freya Vanir but cross it with the Sylvie (FiiO BTR11, FiiO K11 R2R, Lake People G103-S Mk II, 7 more).

262 of the 280 sources here reach 100 dB on both.

What each one needs from 80 to 105 dB

The Freya Vanir is more demanding than 87% of the 567 non-electrostatic models in this database; the Sylvie than 14%.

dB SPLFreya Vanir powerFreya Vanir voltageSylvie powerSylvie voltage
800.16 mW50 mV2.0 µW6 mV
850.50 mW90 mV6.3 µW10 mV
901.6 mW0.16 V0.02 mW18 mV
955.0 mW0.28 V0.06 mW32 mV
10016 mW0.50 V0.20 mW57 mV
10550 mW0.90 V0.63 mW0.10 V

The cheapest source that satisfies both

SourcePriceHeadroom, Freya VanirHeadroom, SylvieOutput impedanceNoise
FiiO KA11$2911.9 dB30.9 dB0.7 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO BTR13$598.8 dB27.8 dB0.6 Ω1.0 µV
iBasso DC03 Pro$694.9 dB23.9 dB0.12 Ω0.9 µV

Of the 280 sources here, 262 reach 100 dB on both. 61 of them also publish an output impedance low enough for both under the one-eighth rule and a noise figure that stays below the audible-hiss threshold with both.

The cheapest of the 61 is the FiiO KA11, at $29. It leaves 11.9 dB of headroom on the Freya Vanir and 30.9 dB on the Sylvie, its output impedance is 0.7 Ω against a one-eighth limit of 2.00 Ω for both, and its noise figure puts the hiss floor 29 dB and 10 dB below the 20 dB SPL this site treats as the point where a quiet room stops hiding it.

Try any other source.

What each sheet prints, and what it is worth

ModelAs printedToleranceStandard
Freya Vanir20Hz – 20kHznot printednot printed
Sylvie20Hz - 20kHznot printednot printed

Kinera prints 20Hz – 20kHz for the Freya Vanir and 20Hz - 20kHz for the Sylvie.

Neither range has a tolerance printed beside it, so a wider range on one sheet is not deeper bass or more treble.

Not a measurement; maker by maker.

Both pages in full

Both have a page of their own. In full: Kinera Freya Vanir and Kinera Sylvie. Each figure on this page is labelled on those pages with where it came from, including the ones Kinera never published — what that maker publishes, counted.

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