Orchestra II vs Orchestra Lite: which needs more amplifier?

The Kiwi Ears Orchestra II is 15Ω at 110.0 dB/mW; the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite is 16Ω at 112.0 dB (no reference unit printed). This page covers what they ask of an amplifier, not how they sound.

The Orchestra II needs 2.0 dB more than the Orchestra Lite to reach the same loudness — 0.10 mW against 0.06 mW.

The numbers that decide it

SpecificationOrchestra IIOrchestra Lite
Impedance15 Ω16 Ω
Sensitivity110.0 dB/mW112.0 dB
Sensitivity (voltage)128.2 dB/V130.0 dB/V
Power for 100 dB0.10 mW0.06 mW
Voltage for 100 dB39 mV32 mV
Current for 100 dB2.6 mA2.0 mA
Highest source impedance
that leaves them alone (one-eighth rule)
1.88 Ω2.00 Ω
Sources that reach 100 dB
out of 280
280280

One caution before reading the rows. Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite printed a decibel figure with no reference unit, so this page reads it as per milliwatt. If it is really per volt, that model needs far more than the table says. Why the two readings differ by so much.

Where the two part company

Every source in the database that drives one of them drives the other. On power, the choice between these two changes nothing about what amplifier you need.

3 sources are low enough in output impedance for the Orchestra Lite under the one-eighth rule but not for the Orchestra II (Astell&Kern HC3, RME Fireface UFX II, RME Fireface UFX III).

5 sources stay below the audible-hiss threshold with the Orchestra II but cross it with the Orchestra Lite (Fosi Audio SK02, FiiO M15S, FiiO K19, 2 more).

280 of the 280 sources here reach 100 dB on both.

What each one needs from 80 to 105 dB

The Orchestra II is more demanding than 6% of the 567 non-electrostatic models in this database; the Orchestra Lite than 4%.

dB SPLOrchestra II powerOrchestra II voltageOrchestra Lite powerOrchestra Lite voltage
801.0 µW4 mV0.6 µW3 mV
853.2 µW7 mV2.0 µW6 mV
900.01 mW12 mV6.3 µW10 mV
950.03 mW22 mV0.02 mW18 mV
1000.10 mW39 mV0.06 mW32 mV
1050.32 mW69 mV0.20 mW57 mV

The cheapest source that satisfies both

SourcePriceHeadroom, Orchestra IIHeadroom, Orchestra LiteOutput impedanceNoise
JadeAudio JA11$2021.5 dB23.8 dB0.5 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO KA11$2933.6 dB35.9 dB0.7 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO BTR13$5930.5 dB32.8 dB0.6 Ω1.0 µV

Of the 280 sources here, 280 reach 100 dB on both. 49 of them also publish an output impedance low enough for both under the one-eighth rule and a noise figure that stays below the audible-hiss threshold with both.

The cheapest of the 49 is the JadeAudio JA11, at $20. It leaves 21.5 dB of headroom on the Orchestra II and 23.8 dB on the Orchestra Lite, its output impedance is 0.5 Ω against a one-eighth limit of 1.88 Ω and 2.00 Ω, and its noise figure puts the hiss floor 7 dB and 5 dB below the 20 dB SPL this site treats as the point where a quiet room stops hiding it.

Try any other source.

What each sheet prints, and what it is worth

ModelAs printedToleranceStandard
Orchestra II20Hz-20KHznot printednot printed
Orchestra Litenothing printed——

Kiwi Ears prints 20Hz-20KHz for the Orchestra II and nothing at all for the Orchestra Lite.

Orchestra Lite: The spec table prints impedance, sensitivity, drivers and cable only. The page describes the curve in prose ("sub-bass peaking at 8 dB from 20 Hz to 200 Hz") and shows a graph, but prints no frequency range.

So one side of this comparison has a frequency-response number and the other does not — which changes less than it looks. The range printed for the Orchestra II comes with no tolerance beside it, and a range without a ±dB figure says nothing about how loud the headphone is at either end of it: thirty decibels down at the bottom and the sentence would still be true. On the only reading that would have made it a specification, the two sheets say the same amount: nothing.

Not a measurement; maker by maker.

Both pages in full

Both have a page of their own. In full: Kiwi Ears Orchestra II and Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite. Each figure on this page is labelled on those pages with where it came from, including the ones Kiwi Ears never published — what that maker publishes, counted.

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