Orchestra Lite vs Stardust: which needs more amplifier?

The Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite is 16Ω at 112.0 dB (no reference unit printed); the Kiwi Ears Stardust is 13Ω at 107.0 dB (no reference unit printed). This page covers what they ask of an amplifier, not how they sound.

The Stardust needs 5.0 dB more than the Orchestra Lite to reach the same loudness — 0.20 mW against 0.06 mW.

The numbers that decide it

SpecificationOrchestra LiteStardust
Impedance16 Ω13 Ω
Sensitivity112.0 dB107.0 dB
Sensitivity (voltage)130.0 dB/V125.9 dB/V
Power for 100 dB0.06 mW0.20 mW
Voltage for 100 dB32 mV51 mV
Current for 100 dB2.0 mA3.9 mA
Highest source impedance
that leaves them alone (one-eighth rule)
2.00 Ω1.62 Ω
Sources that reach 100 dB
out of 280
280280

One caution before reading the rows. Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite and Kiwi Ears Stardust printed a decibel figure with no reference unit, so this page reads it as per milliwatt. If it is really per volt, each of them needs far more than the table says. Why the two readings differ by so much.

Where the two part company

Every source in the database that drives one of them drives the other. On power, the choice between these two changes nothing about what amplifier you need.

5 sources are low enough in output impedance for the Orchestra Lite under the one-eighth rule but not for the Stardust (FiiO KA13, Schiit Vali 2+, Astell&Kern HC3, 2 more).

9 sources stay below the audible-hiss threshold with the Stardust but cross it with the Orchestra Lite (Fosi Audio SK02, Grace Design m900, FiiO M15S, 6 more).

280 of the 280 sources here reach 100 dB on both.

What each one needs from 80 to 105 dB

The Stardust is more demanding than 12% of the 567 non-electrostatic models in this database; the Orchestra Lite than 4%.

dB SPLOrchestra Lite powerOrchestra Lite voltageStardust powerStardust voltage
800.6 µW3 mV2.0 µW5 mV
852.0 µW6 mV6.3 µW9 mV
906.3 µW10 mV0.02 mW16 mV
950.02 mW18 mV0.06 mW29 mV
1000.06 mW32 mV0.20 mW51 mV
1050.20 mW57 mV0.63 mW91 mV

The cheapest source that satisfies both

SourcePriceHeadroom, Orchestra LiteHeadroom, StardustOutput impedanceNoise
JadeAudio JA11$2023.8 dB17.9 dB0.5 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO KA11$2935.9 dB30.0 dB0.7 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO BTR13$5932.8 dB26.9 dB0.6 Ω1.0 µV

Of the 280 sources here, 280 reach 100 dB on both. 48 of them also publish an output impedance low enough for both under the one-eighth rule and a noise figure that stays below the audible-hiss threshold with both.

The cheapest of the 48 is the JadeAudio JA11, at $20. It leaves 23.8 dB of headroom on the Orchestra Lite and 17.9 dB on the Stardust, its output impedance is 0.5 Ω against a one-eighth limit of 2.00 Ω and 1.62 Ω, and its noise figure puts the hiss floor 5 dB and 10 dB below the 20 dB SPL this site treats as the point where a quiet room stops hiding it.

Try any other source.

What each sheet prints, and what it is worth

ModelAs printedToleranceStandard
Orchestra Litenothing printed——
Stardust20Hz–40kHznot printednot printed

Kiwi Ears prints nothing at all for the Orchestra Lite and 20Hz–40kHz for the Stardust.

Orchestra Lite: The spec table prints impedance, sensitivity, drivers and cable only. The page describes the curve in prose ("sub-bass peaking at 8 dB from 20 Hz to 200 Hz") and shows a graph, but prints no frequency range.

So one side of this comparison has a frequency-response number and the other does not — which changes less than it looks. The range printed for the Stardust comes with no tolerance beside it, and a range without a ±dB figure says nothing about how loud the headphone is at either end of it: thirty decibels down at the bottom and the sentence would still be true. On the only reading that would have made it a specification, the two sheets say the same amount: nothing.

Not a measurement; maker by maker.

Both pages in full

Both have a page of their own. In full: Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite and Kiwi Ears Stardust. Each figure on this page is labelled on those pages with where it came from, including the ones Kiwi Ears never published — what that maker publishes, counted.

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