T20RP MK3 vs TH616: which needs more amplifier?

The Fostex T20RP MK3 is 50Ω at 92.0 dB/mW; the Fostex TH616 is 25Ω at 96.0 dB/mW. This page covers what they ask of an amplifier, not how they sound.

The T20RP MK3 needs 4.0 dB more than the TH616 to reach the same loudness — 6.3 mW against 2.5 mW.

The numbers that decide it

SpecificationT20RP MK3TH616
Impedance50 Ω25 Ω
Sensitivity92.0 dB/mW96.0 dB/mW
Sensitivity (voltage)105.0 dB/V112.0 dB/V
Power for 100 dB6.3 mW2.5 mW
Voltage for 100 dB0.56 V0.25 V
Current for 100 dB11.2 mA10.0 mA
Highest source impedance
that leaves them alone (one-eighth rule)
6.25 Ω3.12 Ω
Sources that reach 100 dB
out of 280
280280

Where the two part company

Every source in the database that drives one of them drives the other. On power, the choice between these two changes nothing about what amplifier you need.

1 source is low enough in output impedance for the T20RP MK3 under the one-eighth rule but not for the TH616 (Shanling H5).

1 source stays below the audible-hiss threshold with the T20RP MK3 but crosses it with the TH616 (Schiit Mjolnir 3).

280 of the 280 sources here reach 100 dB on both.

What each one needs from 80 to 105 dB

The T20RP MK3 is more demanding than 88% of the 567 non-electrostatic models in this database; the TH616 than 68%.

dB SPLT20RP MK3 powerT20RP MK3 voltageTH616 powerTH616 voltage
800.06 mW56 mV0.03 mW25 mV
850.20 mW100 mV0.08 mW45 mV
900.63 mW0.18 V0.25 mW79 mV
952.0 mW0.32 V0.79 mW0.14 V
1006.3 mW0.56 V2.5 mW0.25 V
10520 mW1.00 V7.9 mW0.45 V

The cheapest source that satisfies both

SourcePriceHeadroom, T20RP MK3Headroom, TH616Output impedanceNoise
JadeAudio JA11$204.8 dB9.7 dB0.5 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO KA11$2913.1 dB19.2 dB0.7 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO BTR11$364.8 dB11.3 dB0.5 Ω8.0 µV

Of the 280 sources here, 280 reach 100 dB on both. 69 of them also publish an output impedance low enough for both under the one-eighth rule and a noise figure that stays below the audible-hiss threshold with both.

The cheapest of the 69 is the JadeAudio JA11, at $20. It leaves 4.8 dB of headroom on the T20RP MK3 and 9.7 dB on the TH616, its output impedance is 0.5 Ω against a one-eighth limit of 6.25 Ω and 3.12 Ω, and its noise figure puts the hiss floor 30 dB and 23 dB below the 20 dB SPL this site treats as the point where a quiet room stops hiding it.

Try any other source.

What each sheet prints, and what it is worth

ModelAs printedToleranceStandard
T20RP MK315 to 35,000 Hznot printednot printed
TH6165 to 45,000Hznot printednot printed

Fostex prints 15 to 35,000 Hz for the T20RP MK3 and 5 to 45,000Hz for the TH616.

Neither range has a tolerance printed beside it, so a wider range on one sheet is not deeper bass or more treble.

Not a measurement; maker by maker.

Both pages in full

Both have a page of their own. In full: Fostex T20RP MK3 and Fostex TH616. Every figure on this page comes from what Fostex published, or is derived from it — what that maker publishes, counted.

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