T40RP MK3 vs TH818: which needs more amplifier?

The Fostex T40RP MK3 is 50Ω at 91.0 dB/mW; the Fostex TH818 is 25Ω at 100.0 dB/mW. This page covers what they ask of an amplifier, not how they sound.

The T40RP MK3 needs 9.0 dB more than the TH818 to reach the same loudness — 7.9 mW against 1.0 mW.

The numbers that decide it

SpecificationT40RP MK3TH818
Impedance50 Ω25 Ω
Sensitivity91.0 dB/mW100.0 dB/mW
Sensitivity (voltage)104.0 dB/V116.0 dB/V
Power for 100 dB7.9 mW1.0 mW
Voltage for 100 dB0.63 V0.16 V
Current for 100 dB12.6 mA6.3 mA
Highest source impedance
that leaves them alone (one-eighth rule)
6.25 Ω3.12 Ω
Sources that reach 100 dB
out of 280
280280

Where the two part company

Every source in the database that drives one of them drives the other. On power, the choice between these two changes nothing about what amplifier you need.

1 source is low enough in output impedance for the T40RP MK3 under the one-eighth rule but not for the TH818 (Shanling H5).

1 source stays below the audible-hiss threshold with the T40RP MK3 but crosses it with the TH818 (Schiit Mjolnir 3).

280 of the 280 sources here reach 100 dB on both.

What each one needs from 80 to 105 dB

The T40RP MK3 is more demanding than 92% of the 567 non-electrostatic models in this database; the TH818 than 48%.

dB SPLT40RP MK3 powerT40RP MK3 voltageTH818 powerTH818 voltage
800.08 mW63 mV0.01 mW16 mV
850.25 mW0.11 V0.03 mW28 mV
900.79 mW0.20 V0.10 mW50 mV
952.5 mW0.35 V0.32 mW89 mV
1007.9 mW0.63 V1.0 mW0.16 V
10525 mW1.12 V3.2 mW0.28 V

The cheapest source that satisfies both

SourcePriceHeadroom, T40RP MK3Headroom, TH818Output impedanceNoise
JadeAudio JA11$203.8 dB13.7 dB0.5 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO KA11$2912.1 dB23.2 dB0.7 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO BTR11$363.8 dB15.3 dB0.5 Ω8.0 µV

Of the 280 sources here, 280 reach 100 dB on both. 69 of them also publish an output impedance low enough for both under the one-eighth rule and a noise figure that stays below the audible-hiss threshold with both.

The cheapest of the 69 is the JadeAudio JA11, at $20. It leaves 3.8 dB of headroom on the T40RP MK3 and 13.7 dB on the TH818, its output impedance is 0.5 Ω against a one-eighth limit of 6.25 Ω and 3.12 Ω, and its noise figure puts the hiss floor 31 dB and 19 dB below the 20 dB SPL this site treats as the point where a quiet room stops hiding it.

Try any other source.

What each sheet prints, and what it is worth

ModelAs printedToleranceStandard
T40RP MK320 to 35,000 Hznot printednot printed
TH81812.5–45,000 Hznot printednot printed

Fostex prints 20 to 35,000 Hz for the T40RP MK3 and 12.5–45,000 Hz for the TH818.

Neither range has a tolerance printed beside it, so a wider range on one sheet is not deeper bass or more treble.

Not a measurement; maker by maker.

Both pages in full

Both have a page of their own. In full: Fostex T40RP MK3 and Fostex TH818. Every figure on this page comes from what Fostex published, or is derived from it — what that maker publishes, counted.

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