T50RP mk4 vs TH1100RPmk2: which needs more amplifier?

The Fostex T50RP mk4 is 28Ω at 97.0 dB/mW; the Fostex TH1100RPmk2 is 32Ω at 96.0 dB/mW. This page is only about what they ask of an amplifier — not how they sound, which no specification on either sheet can tell you.

The TH1100RPmk2 needs 1.0 dB more than the T50RP mk4 to reach the same loudness — 2.5 mW against 2.0 mW.

The numbers that decide it

SpecificationT50RP mk4TH1100RPmk2
Impedance28 Ω32 Ω
Sensitivity97.0 dB/mW96.0 dB/mW
Sensitivity (voltage)112.5 dB/V110.9 dB/V
Power for 100 dB2.0 mW2.5 mW
Voltage for 100 dB0.24 V0.28 V
Current for 100 dB8.4 mA8.9 mA
Highest source impedance
that leaves them alone (one-eighth rule)
3.50 Ω4.00 Ω
Sources that reach 100 dB
out of 280
280280

Where the two part company

Every source in the database that drives one of them drives the other. On power, the choice between these two changes nothing about what amplifier you need.

1 source stays below the audible-hiss threshold with the TH1100RPmk2 but crosses it with the T50RP mk4 (Schiit Mjolnir 3).

280 of the 280 sources here reach 100 dB on both. That count is about power only — the output-impedance and hiss lines above are separate questions, and a source can pass this one and fail those.

What each one needs from 80 to 105 dB

The gap between these two in decibels does not change with volume — it is a property of the two headphones. What changes is the size of the numbers, and it changes fast: every 10 dB costs ten times the power. The row that matters is the one nearest the level you listen at, and for most people that is nearer the top of this table than the bottom.

The TH1100RPmk2 is more demanding than 72% of the 567 non-electrostatic models in this database; the T50RP mk4 than 65%. Both figures use the same measure as the rest of the site: whichever runs out first against a 2 V, 100 mW dongle, voltage or power.

dB SPLT50RP mk4 powerT50RP mk4 voltageTH1100RPmk2 powerTH1100RPmk2 voltage
800.02 mW24 mV0.03 mW28 mV
850.06 mW42 mV0.08 mW50 mV
900.20 mW75 mV0.25 mW90 mV
950.63 mW0.13 V0.79 mW0.16 V
1002.0 mW0.24 V2.5 mW0.28 V
1056.3 mW0.42 V7.9 mW0.50 V

105 dB is included because forum power figures are usually quoted there or higher. It is also a level that damages hearing in minutes — how many minutes is its own calculator.

The cheapest source that satisfies both

SourcePriceHeadroom, T50RP mk4Headroom, TH1100RPmk2Output impedanceNoise
JadeAudio JA11$2011.2 dB10.8 dB0.5 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO KA11$2920.1 dB19.0 dB0.7 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO BTR11$3612.1 dB10.8 dB0.5 Ω8.0 µV

Of the 280 sources here, 280 reach 100 dB on both. That is the easy axis. 69 of them also publish an output impedance low enough for both under the one-eighth rule and a noise figure that stays below the audible-hiss threshold with both — the rest either fail one of those or never printed the number at all, and 208 of them are in the second group.

The cheapest of the 69 is the JadeAudio JA11, at $20. It leaves 11.2 dB of headroom on the T50RP mk4 and 10.8 dB on the TH1100RPmk2, its output impedance is 0.5 Ω against a one-eighth limit of 3.50 Ω and 4.00 Ω, and its noise figure puts the hiss floor 23 dB and 24 dB below the 20 dB SPL this site treats as the point where a quiet room stops hiding it.

Cheapest that satisfies three published numbers is not the same as best, and none of it is about how either headphone sounds. To put either model against a source this page does not mention, or to change the target loudness, use the amplifier matcher.

What each sheet prints, and what it is worth

ModelAs printedToleranceStandard
T50RP mk410 to 40,000 Hznot printednot printed
TH1100RPmk210 – 40,000 Hznot printednot printed

Fostex prints 10 to 40,000 Hz for the T50RP mk4 and 10 – 40,000 Hz for the TH1100RPmk2.

Neither range has a tolerance printed beside it, and that is the whole of what this section can tell you. A wider range on one sheet is not deeper bass or more treble on that headphone: without a tolerance, neither number says how loud either model is at the ends of its own range, so the difference between the two is a difference between two pieces of marketing copy. A ±dB figure is what turns a range into a specification, and of the 490 models whose maker prints a range, 58 print it.

None of this is a measurement. What each maker publishes, and what it is worth, is set out in the frequency response audit.

Both pages in full

Each model has a page of its own with the full source list, the hiss estimate and the provenance of every figure above: Fostex T50RP mk4 and Fostex TH1100RPmk2. Every figure on this page comes from what Fostex published, or is derived from it — what that maker publishes, counted.

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