HE-6se V2 vs HE5XX (Drop): which needs more amplifier?

The HiFiMAN HE-6se V2 is 50Ω at 83.5 dB (no reference unit printed); the HiFiMAN HE5XX (Drop) is 18Ω at 93.5 dB (no reference unit printed). This page covers what they ask of an amplifier, not how they sound.

The HE-6se V2 needs 10.0 dB more than the HE5XX (Drop) to reach the same loudness — 45 mW against 4.5 mW.

The numbers that decide it

SpecificationHE-6se V2HE5XX (Drop)
Impedance50 Ω18 Ω
Sensitivity83.5 dB93.5 dB
Sensitivity (voltage)96.5 dB/V110.9 dB/V
Power for 100 dB45 mW4.5 mW
Voltage for 100 dB1.49 V0.28 V
Current for 100 dB29.9 mA15.8 mA
Highest source impedance
that leaves them alone (one-eighth rule)
6.25 Ω2.25 Ω
Sources that reach 100 dB
out of 280
240280

One caution before reading the rows. HiFiMAN HE-6se V2 and HiFiMAN HE5XX (Drop) printed a decibel figure with no reference unit, so this page reads it as per milliwatt. If it is really per volt, each of them needs far more than the table says. Why the two readings differ by so much.

Where the two part company

40 of the 280 sources have the power for the HE5XX (Drop) but not for the HE-6se V2 — Apple USB-C dongle (US), Apple USB-C dongle (EU), Generic CX31993 dongles, 37 more.

1 source is low enough in output impedance for the HE-6se V2 under the one-eighth rule but not for the HE5XX (Drop) (Shanling H5).

240 of the 280 sources here reach 100 dB on both.

What each one needs from 80 to 105 dB

The HE-6se V2 is more demanding than 99% of the 567 non-electrostatic models in this database; the HE5XX (Drop) than 74%.

dB SPLHE-6se V2 powerHE-6se V2 voltageHE5XX (Drop) powerHE5XX (Drop) voltage
800.45 mW0.15 V0.04 mW28 mV
851.4 mW0.27 V0.14 mW50 mV
904.5 mW0.47 V0.45 mW90 mV
9514 mW0.84 V1.4 mW0.16 V
10045 mW1.49 V4.5 mW0.28 V
105141 mW2.66 V14 mW0.50 V

The cheapest source that satisfies both

SourcePriceHeadroom, HE-6se V2Headroom, HE5XX (Drop)Output impedanceNoise
FiiO KA11$294.6 dB17.2 dB0.7 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO BTR13$591.5 dB14.1 dB0.6 Ω1.0 µV
iBasso DC03 Pro$691.5 dB10.9 dB0.12 Ω0.9 µV

Of the 280 sources here, 240 reach 100 dB on both. 67 of them also publish an output impedance low enough for both under the one-eighth rule and a noise figure that stays below the audible-hiss threshold with both.

The cheapest of the 67 is the FiiO KA11, at $29. It leaves 4.6 dB of headroom on the HE-6se V2 and 17.2 dB on the HE5XX (Drop), its output impedance is 0.7 Ω against a one-eighth limit of 6.25 Ω and 2.25 Ω, and its noise figure puts the hiss floor 39 dB and 24 dB below the 20 dB SPL this site treats as the point where a quiet room stops hiding it.

Try any other source.

What each sheet prints, and what it is worth

ModelAs printedToleranceStandard
HE-6se V28Hz- 65 KHznot printednot printed
HE5XX (Drop)20 Hz - 20 kHznot printednot printed

HiFiMAN prints 8Hz- 65 KHz for the HE-6se V2 and 20 Hz - 20 kHz for the HE5XX (Drop).

Neither range has a tolerance printed beside it, so a wider range on one sheet is not deeper bass or more treble.

Not a measurement; maker by maker.

Both pages in full

Both have a page of their own. In full: HiFiMAN HE-6se V2 and HiFiMAN HE5XX (Drop). Each figure on this page is labelled on those pages with where it came from, including the ones HiFiMAN never published — what that maker publishes, counted.

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