HiFiMAN HE400se vs Sony MDR-MV1: which needs more amplifier?

The HiFiMAN HE400se is 25Ω at 91.0 dB (no reference unit printed); the Sony MDR-MV1 is 24Ω at 100.0 dB/mW. This page is only about what they ask of an amplifier — not how they sound, which no specification on either sheet can tell you.

The HiFiMAN HE400se needs 9.0 dB more than the Sony MDR-MV1 to reach the same loudness — 7.9 mW against 1.0 mW.

The numbers that decide it

SpecificationHiFiMAN HE400seSony MDR-MV1
Impedance25 Ω24 Ω
Sensitivity91.0 dB100.0 dB/mW
Sensitivity (voltage)107.0 dB/V116.2 dB/V
Power for 100 dB7.9 mW1.0 mW
Voltage for 100 dB0.45 V0.15 V
Current for 100 dB17.8 mA6.5 mA
Highest source impedance
that leaves them alone (one-eighth rule)
3.12 Ω3.00 Ω
Sources that reach 100 dB
out of 280
280280

One caution before reading the rows. HiFiMAN HE400se printed a decibel figure with no reference unit, so this page reads it as per milliwatt. If it is really per volt, that model needs far more than the table says. Why the two readings differ by so much.

Where the two part company

Every source in the database that drives one of them drives the other. On power, the choice between these two changes nothing about what amplifier you need.

1 source stays below the audible-hiss threshold with the HiFiMAN HE400se but crosses it with the Sony MDR-MV1 (Schiit Mjolnir 3).

280 of the 280 sources here reach 100 dB on both. That count is about power only — the output-impedance and hiss lines above are separate questions, and a source can pass this one and fail those.

What each one needs from 80 to 105 dB

The gap between these two in decibels does not change with volume — it is a property of the two headphones. What changes is the size of the numbers, and it changes fast: every 10 dB costs ten times the power. The row that matters is the one nearest the level you listen at, and for most people that is nearer the top of this table than the bottom.

The HiFiMAN HE400se is more demanding than 84% of the 567 non-electrostatic models in this database; the Sony MDR-MV1 than 47%. Both figures use the same measure as the rest of the site: whichever runs out first against a 2 V, 100 mW dongle, voltage or power.

dB SPLHiFiMAN HE400se powerHiFiMAN HE400se voltageSony MDR-MV1 powerSony MDR-MV1 voltage
800.08 mW45 mV0.01 mW15 mV
850.25 mW79 mV0.03 mW28 mV
900.79 mW0.14 V0.10 mW49 mV
952.5 mW0.25 V0.32 mW87 mV
1007.9 mW0.45 V1.0 mW0.15 V
10525 mW0.79 V3.2 mW0.28 V

105 dB is included because forum power figures are usually quoted there or higher. It is also a level that damages hearing in minutes — how many minutes is its own calculator.

The cheapest source that satisfies both

SourcePriceHeadroom, HiFiMAN HE400seHeadroom, Sony MDR-MV1Output impedanceNoise
JadeAudio JA11$204.7 dB13.5 dB0.5 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO KA11$2914.2 dB23.3 dB0.7 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO BTR11$366.3 dB15.4 dB0.5 Ω8.0 µV

Of the 280 sources here, 280 reach 100 dB on both. That is the easy axis. 69 of them also publish an output impedance low enough for both under the one-eighth rule and a noise figure that stays below the audible-hiss threshold with both — the rest either fail one of those or never printed the number at all, and 208 of them are in the second group.

The cheapest of the 69 is the JadeAudio JA11, at $20. It leaves 4.7 dB of headroom on the HiFiMAN HE400se and 13.5 dB on the Sony MDR-MV1, its output impedance is 0.5 Ω against a one-eighth limit of 3.12 Ω and 3.00 Ω, and its noise figure puts the hiss floor 28 dB and 19 dB below the 20 dB SPL this site treats as the point where a quiet room stops hiding it.

Cheapest that satisfies three published numbers is not the same as best, and none of it is about how either headphone sounds. To put either model against a source this page does not mention, or to change the target loudness, use the amplifier matcher.

What each sheet prints, and what it is worth

ModelAs printedToleranceStandard
HiFiMAN HE400se20Hz - 20kHznot printednot printed
Sony MDR-MV15 Hz - 80,000 Hz (IEC)not printedIEC

HiFiMAN prints 20Hz - 20kHz for the HE400se. Sony prints 5 Hz - 80,000 Hz (IEC) for the MDR-MV1.

Neither range has a tolerance printed beside it, and that is the whole of what this section can tell you. A wider range on one sheet is not deeper bass or more treble on that headphone: without a tolerance, neither number says how loud either model is at the ends of its own range, so the difference between the two is a difference between two pieces of marketing copy. A ±dB figure is what turns a range into a specification, and of the 490 models whose maker prints a range, 58 print it.

None of this is a measurement. What each maker publishes, and what it is worth, is set out in the frequency response audit.

Both pages in full

Each model has a page of its own with the full source list, the hiss estimate and the provenance of every figure above: HiFiMAN HE400se and Sony MDR-MV1. Each figure on this page is labelled on those pages with where it came from, including the ones HiFiMAN and Sony never published — what HiFiMAN publishes and what Sony publishes, both counted.

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