Loki Divine Mark vs Sylvie: which needs more amplifier?

The Kinera Loki Divine Mark is 14Ω at 105.0 dB (no reference unit printed); the Kinera Sylvie is 16Ω at 107.0 dB (no reference unit printed). This page covers what they ask of an amplifier, not how they sound.

The Loki Divine Mark needs 2.0 dB more than the Sylvie to reach the same loudness — 0.32 mW against 0.20 mW.

The numbers that decide it

SpecificationLoki Divine MarkSylvie
Impedance14 Ω16 Ω
Sensitivity105.0 dB107.0 dB
Sensitivity (voltage)123.5 dB/V125.0 dB/V
Power for 100 dB0.32 mW0.20 mW
Voltage for 100 dB67 mV57 mV
Current for 100 dB4.8 mA3.5 mA
Highest source impedance
that leaves them alone (one-eighth rule)
1.75 Ω2.00 Ω
Sources that reach 100 dB
out of 280
280280

One caution before reading the rows. Kinera Loki Divine Mark and Kinera Sylvie printed a decibel figure with no reference unit, so this page reads it as per milliwatt. If it is really per volt, each of them needs far more than the table says. Why the two readings differ by so much.

Where the two part company

Every source in the database that drives one of them drives the other. On power, the choice between these two changes nothing about what amplifier you need.

4 sources are low enough in output impedance for the Sylvie under the one-eighth rule but not for the Loki Divine Mark (Schiit Vali 2+, Astell&Kern HC3, RME Fireface UFX II, 1 more).

5 sources stay below the audible-hiss threshold with the Loki Divine Mark but cross it with the Sylvie (Lake People G103-S Mk II, Schiit Valhalla 3, RME Babyface Pro FS, 2 more).

280 of the 280 sources here reach 100 dB on both.

What each one needs from 80 to 105 dB

The Loki Divine Mark is more demanding than 20% of the 567 non-electrostatic models in this database; the Sylvie than 14%.

dB SPLLoki Divine Mark powerLoki Divine Mark voltageSylvie powerSylvie voltage
803.2 µW7 mV2.0 µW6 mV
850.01 mW12 mV6.3 µW10 mV
900.03 mW21 mV0.02 mW18 mV
950.10 mW37 mV0.06 mW32 mV
1000.32 mW67 mV0.20 mW57 mV
1051.0 mW0.12 V0.63 mW0.10 V

The cheapest source that satisfies both

SourcePriceHeadroom, Loki Divine MarkHeadroom, SylvieOutput impedanceNoise
JadeAudio JA11$2016.2 dB18.8 dB0.5 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO KA11$2928.3 dB30.9 dB0.7 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO BTR13$5925.2 dB27.8 dB0.6 Ω1.0 µV

Of the 280 sources here, 280 reach 100 dB on both. 62 of them also publish an output impedance low enough for both under the one-eighth rule and a noise figure that stays below the audible-hiss threshold with both.

The cheapest of the 62 is the JadeAudio JA11, at $20. It leaves 16.2 dB of headroom on the Loki Divine Mark and 18.8 dB on the Sylvie, its output impedance is 0.5 Ω against a one-eighth limit of 1.75 Ω and 2.00 Ω, and its noise figure puts the hiss floor 12 dB and 10 dB below the 20 dB SPL this site treats as the point where a quiet room stops hiding it.

Try any other source.

What each sheet prints, and what it is worth

ModelAs printedToleranceStandard
Loki Divine Mark20Hz - 50kHz ultra-widebandnot printednot printed
Sylvie20Hz - 20kHznot printednot printed

Kinera prints 20Hz - 50kHz ultra-wideband for the Loki Divine Mark and 20Hz - 20kHz for the Sylvie.

Loki Divine Mark: Kinera prints “ultra-wideband” inside the specification cell, next to the numbers and in place of the tolerance that would have said what the range means.

Neither range has a tolerance printed beside it, so a wider range on one sheet is not deeper bass or more treble.

Not a measurement; maker by maker.

Both pages in full

Both have a page of their own. In full: Kinera Loki Divine Mark and Kinera Sylvie. Each figure on this page is labelled on those pages with where it came from, including the ones Kinera never published — what that maker publishes, counted.

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