EXT MK II vs Phönix Final Edition: which needs more amplifier?

The Vision Ears EXT MK II is 10Ω at 108.5 dB/mW; the Vision Ears Phönix Final Edition is 10Ω at 114.6 dB/mW. This page covers what they ask of an amplifier, not how they sound.

The EXT MK II needs 6.1 dB more than the Phönix Final Edition to reach the same loudness — 0.14 mW against 0.03 mW.

The numbers that decide it

SpecificationEXT MK IIPhönix Final Edition
Impedance10 Ω10 Ω
Sensitivity108.5 dB/mW114.6 dB/mW
Sensitivity (voltage)128.5 dB/V134.6 dB/V
Power for 100 dB0.14 mW0.03 mW
Voltage for 100 dB38 mV19 mV
Current for 100 dB3.8 mA1.9 mA
Highest source impedance
that leaves them alone (one-eighth rule)
1.25 Ω1.25 Ω
Sources that reach 100 dB
out of 280
280280

Where the two part company

Every source in the database that drives one of them drives the other. On power, the choice between these two changes nothing about what amplifier you need.

31 sources stay below the audible-hiss threshold with the EXT MK II but cross it with the Phönix Final Edition (Kiwi Ears Allegro Mini, FiiO KA13, JDS Labs Atom+ (2nd gen), 28 more).

280 of the 280 sources here reach 100 dB on both.

What each one needs from 80 to 105 dB

The EXT MK II is more demanding than 6% of the 567 non-electrostatic models in this database; the Phönix Final Edition than 0%.

dB SPLEXT MK II powerEXT MK II voltagePhönix Final Edition powerPhönix Final Edition voltage
801.4 µW4 mV0.3 µW2 mV
854.5 µW7 mV1.1 µW3 mV
900.01 mW12 mV3.5 µW6 mV
950.04 mW21 mV0.01 mW10 mV
1000.14 mW38 mV0.03 mW19 mV
1050.45 mW67 mV0.11 mW33 mV

The cheapest source that satisfies both

SourcePriceHeadroom, EXT MK IIHeadroom, Phönix Final EditionOutput impedanceNoise
JadeAudio JA11$2018.2 dB24.3 dB0.5 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO KA11$2930.4 dB36.5 dB0.7 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO BTR13$5927.3 dB33.4 dB0.6 Ω1.0 µV

Of the 280 sources here, 280 reach 100 dB on both. 23 of them also publish an output impedance low enough for both under the one-eighth rule and a noise figure that stays below the audible-hiss threshold with both.

The cheapest of the 23 is the JadeAudio JA11, at $20. It leaves 18.2 dB of headroom on the EXT MK II and 24.3 dB on the Phönix Final Edition, its output impedance is 0.5 Ω against a one-eighth limit of 1.25 Ω for both, and its noise figure puts the hiss floor 7 dB and 1 dB below the 20 dB SPL this site treats as the point where a quiet room stops hiding it.

Try any other source.

What each sheet prints, and what it is worth

ModelAs printedToleranceStandard
EXT MK IInothing printed——
Phönix Final Edition10 Hz - 25 kHznot printednot printed

Vision Ears prints nothing at all for the EXT MK II and 10 Hz - 25 kHz for the Phönix Final Edition.

Phönix Final Edition: The label on that row is one word: “Frequency”. Not response, not range.

So one side of this comparison has a frequency-response number and the other does not — which changes less than it looks. The range printed for the Phönix Final Edition comes with no tolerance beside it, and a range without a ±dB figure says nothing about how loud the headphone is at either end of it: thirty decibels down at the bottom and the sentence would still be true. On the only reading that would have made it a specification, the two sheets say the same amount: nothing.

Not a measurement; maker by maker.

Both pages in full

Both have a page of their own. In full: Vision Ears EXT MK II and Vision Ears Phönix Final Edition. Every figure on this page comes from what Vision Ears published, or is derived from it — what that maker publishes, counted.

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