FiiO M17 vs HiBy R8 II

Short answer

  • More power: the FiiO M17, with 500 mW into 32 Ω; the HiBy R8 II has 225 mW (balanced: 3.00 W against 710 mW). The FiiO M17 drives 2 headphones to 100 dB that the HiBy R8 II cannot (Moondrop PARA, Symphonium Titan).
  • Quieter with sensitive IEMs: the HiBy R8 II. 4 headphones stay below audible hiss on it but not on the FiiO M17 (Audio-Technica ATH-CKS1100, EPZ K5, Grado Signature S750, 1 more).
  • Price: the HiBy R8 II costs $200 more; what that buys on these numbers is set out further down, under What the price difference buys.

Both are portable players, $1799 against $1999.

The FiiO M17 reaches 100 dB on 567 of the 567 models here, the HiBy R8 II on 565.

Every published figure, next to each other

SpecificationFiiO M17HiBy R8 II
Power into 32Ω500 mW225 mW
Power into 150Ω115 mW48 mW
Power into 300Ω63 mW24 mW
Power into 600Ω32 mW12 mW
Output impedance1 Ω1 Ω
Output noise3.5 µV3.2 µV
Price$1799$1999
Headphones it reaches 100 dB on
out of 567
567565

The 4.4 mm or XLR socket, rated on its own

BalancedFiiO M17HiBy R8 II
Socket4.4mm4.4mm
Power into 32Ω3.0 W710 mW
Power into 300Ω250 mW76 mW derived
Output impedance2 Ω1 Ω
Output noise7 µV5.4 µV
Headphones it reaches 100 dB on
out of 567
567566

Through the balanced sockets the FiiO M17 reaches 100 dB on 567 of the 567 models here and the HiBy R8 II on 566. Derived figures are worked out from the loads the maker did publish.

Where each power figure comes from

LoadFiiO M17HiBy R8 II
32 ΩPublishedPublished
150 ΩDerivedDerived
300 ΩPublishedDerived
600 ΩDerivedDerived

Both makers publish a power rating. FiiO M17 publishes at 32 Ω and at 300 Ω; HiBy R8 II at 32 Ω. The other rows are worked out from those.

So the two columns are not equally firm row by row: at 300 Ω only the FiiO M17 figure is the maker’s own. On those rows the derived number is the one to doubt first.

What the labels mean.

The headphones that tell them apart

2 headphones reach 100 dB on the FiiO M17 but not on the HiBy R8 II — Moondrop PARA, Symphonium Titan.

4 headphones stay below the audible-hiss threshold on the HiBy R8 II but cross it on the FiiO M17 (Audio-Technica ATH-CKS1100, EPZ K5, Grado Signature S750, 1 more).

565 of the 567 models here reach 100 dB on both.

Headroom and hiss on 8 models, both sources

Headroom is at a 100 dB SPL peak.

The widest gap on the list is the Shure SE846: FiiO M17 has +40 dB of headroom there against +32 dB. 8 dB is about 6.6 times the power, which matters for peaks rather than for how loud the music sits.

Hiss below about 20 dB SPL is inaudible in a quiet room.

HeadphoneImpedanceNeedsFiiO M17 headroomHiBy R8 II headroomFiiO M17 hissHiBy R8 II hiss
Shure SE8469 Ω0.04 mW+40 dB+32 dB25 dB25 dB
Campfire Audio Andromeda 20209 Ω4.0 mW+20 dB+12 dB5 dB5 dB
Audeze LCD-2 Classic70 Ω0.79 mW+25 dB+21 dB3 dB3 dB
Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro (250Ω)250 Ω0.63 mW+21 dB+17 dB-1 dB-2 dB
HiFiMAN HE400se25 Ω7.9 mW+19 dB+13 dB-2 dB-3 dB
Audio-Technica ATH-R70X470 Ω1.6 mW+14 dB+10 dB-8 dB-9 dB
Sennheiser HD 600300 Ω6.6 mW+10 dB+6 dB-12 dB-13 dB
HiFiMAN Susvara60 Ω50 mW+7 dB+4 dB-14 dB-15 dB

The gap in dollars, against the gap in numbers

The HiBy R8 II costs $200 more than the FiiO M17. Out of the 567 models here, that difference buys 4 more models kept below the audible-hiss threshold.

It does not run one way only: the cheaper FiiO M17 drives 2 models to 100 dB that the HiBy R8 II does not, which is the part worth checking against your own headphones before paying the difference.

Only published figures count here; blank axes are counted separately.

Both pages in full

Each in full: FiiO M17 and HiBy R8 II.

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