Hidizs AP80 Pro Max vs Surfans F28

Both are portable players, $179 against $180. This page puts them side by side on the only three things a maker can be held to — power, output impedance and noise — and then asks the question that actually matters: which headphones do they treat differently?

The Surfans F28 reaches 100 dB on 561 of the 567 models here, the Hidizs AP80 Pro Max on 556.

Every published figure, next to each other

SpecificationHidizs AP80 Pro MaxSurfans F28
Power into 32Ω70 mW125 mW
Power into 150Ω15 mW27 mW
Power into 300Ω7.5 mW13 mW
Power into 600Ω3.7 mW6.7 mW
Output impedancenot publishednot published
Output noisenot publishednot published
Price$179$180
Headphones it reaches 100 dB on
out of 567
556561

A figure marked not published is missing from the maker’s own material, which is not the same as being good or bad. Where one of these two publishes a number and the other does not, the comparison on that axis cannot be made at all — and saying so is more useful than guessing.

The headphones that tell them apart

5 headphones reach 100 dB on the Surfans F28 but not on the Hidizs AP80 Pro Max — HiFiMAN Susvara, Moondrop PARA 2, Moondrop SKYLAND, 2 more.

556 of the 567 models here reach 100 dB on both. That is a power count and nothing more; whether either source suits a given headphone also depends on the two lines above.

Both pages in full

Each has a page of its own with every power figure traced to what the maker published and a full headphone list: Hidizs AP80 Pro Max and Surfans F28. Or put either against your own headphones in the source comparison tool.