Lake People G111 Mk II vs Topping A90 Discrete

Short answer

  • More power: the Topping A90 Discrete, with 2.00 W into 32 Ω; the Lake People G111 Mk II has 1.40 W. Both drive 567 of the 567 non-electrostatic headphones here to 100 dB, so on that test the difference changes nothing.
  • Quieter with sensitive IEMs: the Topping A90 Discrete. 116 headphones stay below audible hiss on it but not on the Lake People G111 Mk II (64 Audio Aspire 1, 64 Audio Fourte, 64 Audio Nio, 113 more).
  • Price: the Topping A90 Discrete costs $30 less and gives up nothing on power, output impedance or hiss against the 567 headphones here. Whatever the extra money for the Lake People G111 Mk II buys, it is not these three numbers.

Both are desktop amplifiers, $629 against $599.

On raw power they are level: each reaches 100 dB on 567 of the 567 non-electrostatic models here.

Every published figure, next to each other

SpecificationLake People G111 Mk IITopping A90 Discrete
Power into 32Ω1.4 W2.0 W
Power into 150Ω1.4 W480 mW
Power into 300Ω1.1 W250 mW
Power into 600Ω600 mW125 mW
Output impedance0.125 Ω0.1 Ω
Output noise6.9 µV0.2 µV
Price$629$599
Headphones it reaches 100 dB on
out of 567
567567

The 4.4 mm or XLR socket, rated on its own

BalancedLake People G111 Mk IITopping A90 Discrete
Socketno separate ratingXLR4 + 4.4mm
Power into 32Ω—6.7 W
Power into 300Ω—1.0 W
Output impedance—0.2 Ω
Output noise—0.2 µV
Headphones it reaches 100 dB on
out of 567
—567

Only the Topping A90 Discrete has a separate balanced rating from its maker; through it, it reaches 100 dB on 567 of the 567 models here. The Lake People G111 Mk II may still have a balanced socket — its spec sheet simply gives no figure for one, so there is nothing to put beside it.

Where each power figure comes from

LoadLake People G111 Mk IITopping A90 Discrete
32 ΩPublishedPublished
150 ΩDerivedDerived
300 ΩPublishedPublished
600 ΩPublishedDerived

Both makers publish a power rating. Lake People G111 Mk II publishes at 32 Ω, at 300 Ω and at 600 Ω; Topping A90 Discrete at 32 Ω and at 300 Ω. The other rows are worked out from those.

So the two columns are not equally firm row by row: at 600 Ω only the Lake People G111 Mk II figure is the maker’s own. On those rows the derived number is the one to doubt first.

What the labels mean.

The headphones that tell them apart

On power they are interchangeable across this whole database: there is no headphone here that one reaches 100 dB on and the other does not.

116 headphones stay below the audible-hiss threshold on the Topping A90 Discrete but cross it on the Lake People G111 Mk II (64 Audio Aspire 1, 64 Audio Fourte, 64 Audio Nio, 113 more).

567 of the 567 models here reach 100 dB on both.

Headroom and hiss on 8 models, both sources

Headroom is at a 100 dB SPL peak.

The widest gap on the list is the Audio-Technica ATH-R70X: Lake People G111 Mk II has +27 dB of headroom there against +20 dB. 7 dB is about 4.5 times the power, which matters for peaks rather than for how loud the music sits.

Hiss below about 20 dB SPL is inaudible in a quiet room.

HeadphoneImpedanceNeedsLake People G111 Mk II headroomTopping A90 Discrete headroomLake People G111 Mk II hissTopping A90 Discrete hiss
Shure SE8469 Ω0.04 mW+40 dB+47 dB31 dB0 dB
Campfire Audio Andromeda 20209 Ω4.0 mW+20 dB+27 dB11 dB-20 dB
Audeze LCD-2 Classic70 Ω0.79 mW+34 dB+31 dB9 dB-21 dB
Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro (250Ω)250 Ω0.63 mW+32 dB+27 dB5 dB-26 dB
HiFiMAN HE400se25 Ω7.9 mW+22 dB+25 dB4 dB-27 dB
Audio-Technica ATH-R70X470 Ω1.6 mW+27 dB+20 dB-2 dB-33 dB
Sennheiser HD 600300 Ω6.6 mW+22 dB+16 dB-6 dB-37 dB
HiFiMAN Susvara60 Ω50 mW+16 dB+14 dB-8 dB-39 dB

The gap in dollars, against the gap in numbers

The Lake People G111 Mk II costs $30 more than the Topping A90 Discrete, and on these three axes the money buys nothing: among the 567 models here there is not one that the Lake People G111 Mk II handles and the Topping A90 Discrete does not — not on power, not on the one-eighth rule, not on hiss. The traffic runs the other way: the cheaper Topping A90 Discrete keeps 116 models below the audible-hiss threshold that the Lake People G111 Mk II does not.

Only published figures count here; blank axes are counted separately.

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