Both are desktop amplifiers, $799 against $149. This page puts them side by side on the only three things a maker can be held to — power, output impedance and noise — and then asks the question that actually matters: which headphones do they treat differently?
On raw power they are level: each reaches 100 dB on 567 of the 567 non-electrostatic models here.
| Specification | Schiit Lyr 5 | Schiit Vali 3 |
|---|---|---|
| Power into 32Ω | 6.0 W | 1.5 W |
| Power into 150Ω | 1.5 W | 496 mW |
| Power into 300Ω | 900 mW | 400 mW |
| Power into 600Ω | 450 mW | 200 mW |
| Output impedance | 0.4 Ω | 0.5 Ω |
| Output noise | 3.99 µV | 2.83 µV |
| Price | $799 | $149 |
| Headphones it reaches 100 dB on out of 567 | 567 | 567 |
A figure marked not published is missing from the maker’s own material, which is not the same as being good or bad. Where one of these two publishes a number and the other does not, the comparison on that axis cannot be made at all — and saying so is more useful than guessing.
| Load | Schiit Lyr 5 | Schiit Vali 3 |
|---|---|---|
| 32 Ω | Published | Published |
| 150 Ω | Derived | Derived |
| 300 Ω | Published | Published |
| 600 Ω | Published | Published |
Both makers publish a power rating, which is less common than the table above makes it look: of the 280 sources here, 209 publish a figure at at least one load and only 2 publish one at all four. Schiit Lyr 5 publishes at 32 Ω, at 300 Ω and at 600 Ω; Schiit Vali 3 at 32 Ω, at 300 Ω and at 600 Ω. Every other row is worked out from those — between two published loads, or beyond them holding voltage constant, which understates rather than flatters.
The two publish at the same loads, which is the one case where the rows of this table can be read straight across.
What each of these labels means, and why a derived figure is still worth printing, is set out in how this data was built.
On power they are interchangeable across this whole database: there is no headphone here that one reaches 100 dB on and the other does not.
20 headphones stay below the audible-hiss threshold on the Schiit Vali 3 but cross it on the Schiit Lyr 5 (AFUL Performer 8, Audio-Technica ATH-CKS1100, Austrian Audio Hi-X25BT, 17 more).
567 of the 567 models here reach 100 dB on both. That is a power count and nothing more; whether either source suits a given headphone also depends on the two lines above.
The counts above say how many models the two treat differently. This says by how much. The same 8 headphones appear on every page of this kind, ordered from the easiest to drive to the hardest, so a row can be read across pages as well as across columns. Headroom is at a 100 dB SPL peak.
The widest gap on the list is the Shure SE846: Schiit Lyr 5 has +51 dB of headroom there against +40 dB. 11 dB is about 12 times the power, which matters for peaks rather than for how loud the music sits.
Hiss is this source’s own noise, in decibels SPL, in that headphone — not a rating. Below about 20 dB SPL it is under the threshold of hearing in a quiet room; a negative figure means it is far below it.
| Headphone | Impedance | Needs | Schiit Lyr 5 headroom | Schiit Vali 3 headroom | Schiit Lyr 5 hiss | Schiit Vali 3 hiss |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shure SE846 | 9 Ω | 0.04 mW | +51 dB | +40 dB | 26 dB | 23 dB |
| Campfire Audio Andromeda 2020 | 9 Ω | 4.0 mW | +31 dB | +20 dB | 6 dB | 3 dB |
| Audeze LCD-2 Classic | 70 Ω | 0.79 mW | +36 dB | +30 dB | 5 dB | 2 dB |
| Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro (250Ω) | 250 Ω | 0.63 mW | +32 dB | +28 dB | 0 dB | -3 dB |
| HiFiMAN HE400se | 25 Ω | 7.9 mW | +29 dB | +22 dB | -1 dB | -4 dB |
| Audio-Technica ATH-R70X | 470 Ω | 1.6 mW | +26 dB | +22 dB | -7 dB | -10 dB |
| Sennheiser HD 600 | 300 Ω | 6.6 mW | +21 dB | +18 dB | -11 dB | -14 dB |
| HiFiMAN Susvara | 60 Ω | 50 mW | +18 dB | +12 dB | -13 dB | -16 dB |
The Schiit Lyr 5 costs $650 more than the Schiit Vali 3, and on these three axes the money buys nothing: among the 567 models here there is not one that the Schiit Lyr 5 handles and the Schiit Vali 3 does not — not on power, not on the one-eighth rule, not on hiss. The traffic runs the other way: the cheaper Schiit Vali 3 keeps 20 models below the audible-hiss threshold that the Schiit Lyr 5 does not.
Everything in this paragraph counts only figures the two makers published. An advantage on an axis one of them leaves blank cannot be counted, and is not counted — how often that happens is its own page.
Each has a page of its own with every power figure traced to what the maker published and a full headphone list: Schiit Lyr 5 and Schiit Vali 3. Or put either against your own headphones in the source comparison tool.