Schiit Vali 3 vs Topping L30 II

Short answer

  • More power: the Topping L30 II, with 2.70 W into 32 Ω; the Schiit Vali 3 has 1.50 W. Both drive 567 of the 567 non-electrostatic headphones here to 100 dB, so on that test the difference changes nothing.
  • Quieter with sensitive IEMs: the Topping L30 II. 16 headphones stay below audible hiss on it but not on the Schiit Vali 3 (64 Audio Fourte, Campfire Audio Andromeda 10, Campfire Audio Andromeda 2023, 13 more).
  • Output impedance: 1 headphone is left alone by the Topping L30 II under the one-eighth rule but coloured by the Schiit Vali 3 (Symphonium Titan).
  • Price: the same, $149.

Both are desktop amplifiers, both at $149.

On raw power they are level: each reaches 100 dB on 567 of the 567 non-electrostatic models here.

Every published figure, next to each other

SpecificationSchiit Vali 3Topping L30 II
Power into 32Ω1.5 W2.7 W
Power into 150Ω496 mW946 mW
Power into 300Ω400 mW560 mW
Power into 600Ω200 mW280 mW
Output impedance0.5 Ω0.1 Ω
Output noise2.83 µV0.3 µV
Price$149$149
Headphones it reaches 100 dB on
out of 567
567567

Where each power figure comes from

LoadSchiit Vali 3Topping L30 II
32 ΩPublishedPublished
150 ΩDerivedDerived
300 ΩPublishedPublished
600 ΩPublishedDerived

Both makers publish a power rating. Schiit Vali 3 publishes at 32 Ω, at 300 Ω and at 600 Ω; Topping L30 II at 32 Ω and at 300 Ω. The other rows are worked out from those.

So the two columns are not equally firm row by row: at 600 Ω only the Schiit Vali 3 figure is the maker’s own. On those rows the derived number is the one to doubt first.

What the labels mean.

The headphones that tell them apart

On power they are interchangeable across this whole database: there is no headphone here that one reaches 100 dB on and the other does not.

1 headphone is left alone by the Topping L30 II under the one-eighth rule but coloured by the Schiit Vali 3 (Symphonium Titan).

16 headphones stay below the audible-hiss threshold on the Topping L30 II but cross it on the Schiit Vali 3 (64 Audio Fourte, Campfire Audio Andromeda 10, Campfire Audio Andromeda 2023, 13 more).

567 of the 567 models here reach 100 dB on both.

Headroom and hiss on 8 models, both sources

Headroom is at a 100 dB SPL peak.

The widest gap on the list is the Shure SE846: Topping L30 II has +47 dB of headroom there against +40 dB. 7 dB is about 4.7 times the power, which matters for peaks rather than for how loud the music sits.

Hiss below about 20 dB SPL is inaudible in a quiet room.

HeadphoneImpedanceNeedsSchiit Vali 3 headroomTopping L30 II headroomSchiit Vali 3 hissTopping L30 II hiss
Shure SE8469 Ω0.04 mW+40 dB+47 dB23 dB4 dB
Campfire Audio Andromeda 20209 Ω4.0 mW+20 dB+27 dB3 dB-16 dB
Audeze LCD-2 Classic70 Ω0.79 mW+30 dB+34 dB2 dB-18 dB
Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro (250Ω)250 Ω0.63 mW+28 dB+30 dB-3 dB-22 dB
HiFiMAN HE400se25 Ω7.9 mW+22 dB+26 dB-4 dB-23 dB
Audio-Technica ATH-R70X470 Ω1.6 mW+22 dB+24 dB-10 dB-29 dB
Sennheiser HD 600300 Ω6.6 mW+18 dB+19 dB-14 dB-33 dB
HiFiMAN Susvara60 Ω50 mW+12 dB+16 dB-16 dB-35 dB

The gap in dollars, against the gap in numbers

These two cost the same, $149, so price settles nothing. Out of the 567 models here, the Topping L30 II leaves one model alone under the one-eighth rule and keeps 16 below the audible-hiss threshold — and on the other side there is no such advantage at all.

Only published figures count here; blank axes are counted separately.

Both pages in full

Each in full: Schiit Vali 3 and Topping L30 II.

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