LCD-2 Closed-Back vs LCD-3: which needs more amplifier?

The Audeze LCD-2 Closed-Back is 70Ω at 101.0 dB/mW; the Audeze LCD-3 is 110Ω at 101.0 dB/mW. This page covers what they ask of an amplifier, not how they sound.

In amplifier terms these two are the same headphone. The gap between what they need for 100 dB is under half a decibel, which is smaller than the step between two clicks of most volume controls.

The numbers that decide it

SpecificationLCD-2 Closed-BackLCD-3
Impedance70 Ω110 Ω
Sensitivity101.0 dB/mW101.0 dB/mW
Sensitivity (voltage)112.5 dB/V110.6 dB/V
Power for 100 dB0.79 mW0.79 mW
Voltage for 100 dB0.24 V0.30 V
Current for 100 dB3.4 mA2.7 mA
Highest source impedance
that leaves them alone (one-eighth rule)
8.75 Ω13.75 Ω
Sources that reach 100 dB
out of 280
280280

Where the two part company

Every source in the database that drives one of them drives the other. On power, the choice between these two changes nothing about what amplifier you need.

16 sources are low enough in output impedance for the LCD-3 under the one-eighth rule but not for the LCD-2 Closed-Back (Zoom AMS-22, Arturia MiniFuse 2, Arturia MiniFuse 1, 13 more).

1 source stays below the audible-hiss threshold with the LCD-3 but crosses it with the LCD-2 Closed-Back (Schiit Mjolnir 3).

280 of the 280 sources here reach 100 dB on both.

What each one needs from 80 to 105 dB

The LCD-3 is more demanding than 74% of the 567 non-electrostatic models in this database; the LCD-2 Closed-Back than 64%.

dB SPLLCD-2 Closed-Back powerLCD-2 Closed-Back voltageLCD-3 powerLCD-3 voltage
807.9 µW24 mV7.9 µW30 mV
850.03 mW42 mV0.03 mW53 mV
900.08 mW75 mV0.08 mW93 mV
950.25 mW0.13 V0.25 mW0.17 V
1000.79 mW0.24 V0.79 mW0.30 V
1052.5 mW0.42 V2.5 mW0.53 V

The cheapest source that satisfies both

SourcePriceHeadroom, LCD-2 Closed-BackHeadroom, LCD-3Output impedanceNoise
JadeAudio JA11$2012.4 dB10.4 dB0.5 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO KA11$2920.6 dB18.7 dB0.7 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO BTR11$3612.3 dB10.3 dB0.5 Ω8.0 µV

Of the 280 sources here, 280 reach 100 dB on both. 69 of them also publish an output impedance low enough for both under the one-eighth rule and a noise figure that stays below the audible-hiss threshold with both.

The cheapest of the 69 is the JadeAudio JA11, at $20. It leaves 12.4 dB of headroom on the LCD-2 Closed-Back and 10.4 dB on the LCD-3, its output impedance is 0.5 Ω against a one-eighth limit of 8.75 Ω and 13.75 Ω, and its noise figure puts the hiss floor 23 dB and 25 dB below the 20 dB SPL this site treats as the point where a quiet room stops hiding it.

Try any other source.

What each sheet prints, and what it is worth

ModelAs printedToleranceStandard
LCD-2 Closed-Back10Hz - 50kHznot printednot printed
LCD-310Hz - 50kHznot printednot printed

Audeze prints the same thing for both the LCD-2 Closed-Back and the LCD-3: 10Hz - 50kHz.

Neither range has a tolerance printed beside it, so the matching numbers say little.

Not a measurement; maker by maker.

Both pages in full

Both have a page of their own. In full: Audeze LCD-2 Closed-Back and Audeze LCD-3. Every figure on this page comes from what Audeze published, or is derived from it — what that maker publishes, counted.

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