Nott Phantom vs Sylvie: which needs more amplifier?

The Kinera Nott Phantom is 54Ω at 105.0 dB (no reference unit printed); the Kinera Sylvie is 16Ω at 107.0 dB (no reference unit printed). This page is only about what they ask of an amplifier — not how they sound, which no specification on either sheet can tell you.

The Nott Phantom needs 2.0 dB more than the Sylvie to reach the same loudness — 0.32 mW against 0.20 mW.

The numbers that decide it

SpecificationNott PhantomSylvie
Impedance54 Ω16 Ω
Sensitivity105.0 dB107.0 dB
Sensitivity (voltage)117.7 dB/V125.0 dB/V
Power for 100 dB0.32 mW0.20 mW
Voltage for 100 dB0.13 V57 mV
Current for 100 dB2.4 mA3.5 mA
Highest source impedance
that leaves them alone (one-eighth rule)
6.75 Ω2.00 Ω
Sources that reach 100 dB
out of 280
280280

One caution before reading the rows. Kinera Nott Phantom and Kinera Sylvie printed a decibel figure with no reference unit, so this page reads it as per milliwatt. If it is really per volt, each of them needs far more than the table says. Why the two readings differ by so much.

Where the two part company

Every source in the database that drives one of them drives the other. On power, the choice between these two changes nothing about what amplifier you need.

1 source is low enough in output impedance for the Nott Phantom under the one-eighth rule but not for the Sylvie (Shanling H5).

9 sources stay below the audible-hiss threshold with the Nott Phantom but cross it with the Sylvie (FiiO BTR11, FiiO K11 R2R, Lake People G103-S Mk II, 6 more).

280 of the 280 sources here reach 100 dB on both. That count is about power only — the output-impedance and hiss lines above are separate questions, and a source can pass this one and fail those.

What each one needs from 80 to 105 dB

The gap between these two in decibels does not change with volume — it is a property of the two headphones. What changes is the size of the numbers, and it changes fast: every 10 dB costs ten times the power. The row that matters is the one nearest the level you listen at, and for most people that is nearer the top of this table than the bottom.

The Nott Phantom is more demanding than 42% of the 567 non-electrostatic models in this database; the Sylvie than 14%. Both figures use the same measure as the rest of the site: whichever runs out first against a 2 V, 100 mW dongle, voltage or power.

dB SPLNott Phantom powerNott Phantom voltageSylvie powerSylvie voltage
803.2 µW13 mV2.0 µW6 mV
850.01 mW23 mV6.3 µW10 mV
900.03 mW41 mV0.02 mW18 mV
950.10 mW73 mV0.06 mW32 mV
1000.32 mW0.13 V0.20 mW57 mV
1051.0 mW0.23 V0.63 mW0.10 V

105 dB is included because forum power figures are usually quoted there or higher. It is also a level that damages hearing in minutes — how many minutes is its own calculator.

The cheapest source that satisfies both

SourcePriceHeadroom, Nott PhantomHeadroom, SylvieOutput impedanceNoise
JadeAudio JA11$2017.5 dB18.8 dB0.5 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO KA11$2925.7 dB30.9 dB0.7 Ω1.7 µV
FiiO BTR13$5922.7 dB27.8 dB0.6 Ω1.0 µV

Of the 280 sources here, 280 reach 100 dB on both. That is the easy axis. 62 of them also publish an output impedance low enough for both under the one-eighth rule and a noise figure that stays below the audible-hiss threshold with both — the rest either fail one of those or never printed the number at all, and 208 of them are in the second group.

The cheapest of the 62 is the JadeAudio JA11, at $20. It leaves 17.5 dB of headroom on the Nott Phantom and 18.8 dB on the Sylvie, its output impedance is 0.5 Ω against a one-eighth limit of 6.75 Ω and 2.00 Ω, and its noise figure puts the hiss floor 18 dB and 10 dB below the 20 dB SPL this site treats as the point where a quiet room stops hiding it.

Cheapest that satisfies three published numbers is not the same as best, and none of it is about how either headphone sounds. To put either model against a source this page does not mention, or to change the target loudness, use the amplifier matcher.

What each sheet prints, and what it is worth

ModelAs printedToleranceStandard
Nott Phantom20Hz - 20kHz full-rangenot printednot printed
Sylvie20Hz - 20kHznot printednot printed

Kinera prints 20Hz - 20kHz full-range for the Nott Phantom and 20Hz - 20kHz for the Sylvie.

Nott Phantom: The word “full-range” is inside the value, not beside it: Kinera prints it in the same cell as the numbers.

Neither range has a tolerance printed beside it, and that is the whole of what this section can tell you. A wider range on one sheet is not deeper bass or more treble on that headphone: without a tolerance, neither number says how loud either model is at the ends of its own range, so the difference between the two is a difference between two pieces of marketing copy. A ±dB figure is what turns a range into a specification, and of the 490 models whose maker prints a range, 58 print it.

None of this is a measurement. What each maker publishes, and what it is worth, is set out in the frequency response audit.

Both pages in full

Each model has a page of its own with the full source list, the hiss estimate and the provenance of every figure above: Kinera Nott Phantom and Kinera Sylvie. Each figure on this page is labelled on those pages with where it came from, including the ones Kinera never published — what that maker publishes, counted.

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