Thieaudio Origin: how much amplifier do you need?

The Thieaudio Origin is 9Ω with a sensitivity of 102.0 dB/mW, which is 122.5 dB/V. To reach 100 dB SPL — genuinely loud, louder than most people listen — it needs 0.63 mW, or 75 mV across the drivers.

That puts it in the easy category. A phone, a laptop headphone jack or the cheapest USB dongle will drive it to painful levels. Of the 156 sources in the database, 156 have comfortable headroom. The cheapest portable source that does the job is the Apple USB-C dongle (US) at $9.

The two numbers that decide everything

Impedance9 Ω
Sensitivity102.0 dB/mW
Sensitivity (voltage)122.5 dB/V
TypeIn-ear monitor
BrandThieaudio
Easy to drive — anything will do it

Sensitivity here is in dB per milliwatt. Manufacturers often quote dB per volt instead and leave the unit off, which is the single most common reason online calculators give answers that are 10–15 dB wrong. The converter explains the difference.

Where this sensitivity figure comes from

Thieaudio publishes a sensitivity of 102 dB and does not state whether that is per milliwatt or per volt — the spec sheet simply stops at the number.

Both readings are given here so you can judge for yourself. If that 102 dB is per milliwatt, the figures on this page are right as they stand. If it is per volt, the real sensitivity is 81.5 dB/mW — 20 dB lower at 9Ω — and everything above understates what these need by that much. The per-milliwatt reading is the one shown, because it is the more common convention on a spec sheet that omits the unit; treat it as an indication rather than a specification.

Source: thieaudio.com. How this data was built.

Power, voltage and current by listening level

LevelWhat it isPowerVoltageCurrent
85 dB SPLquiet background listening0.02 mW13 mV1.5 mA
95 dB SPLnormal listening0.20 mW42 mV4.7 mA
100 dB SPLloud listening0.63 mW75 mV8.4 mA
105 dB SPLvery loud2.0 mW0.13 V14.9 mA
110 dB SPLpeaks on dynamic music6.3 mW0.24 V26.5 mA

Most people listen between 75 and 85 dB. The 100 dB row is the one worth planning around: it gives you headroom for dynamic peaks without designing your system for a volume that would damage your hearing in under fifteen minutes. The safe listening calculator puts numbers on that.

What drives them, from a $9 dongle upwards

Every source in the database, judged at 100 dB SPL into 9Ω. “Headroom” is how much power is left over above what the headphone needs — 10 dB means ten times the required power, which is what you want for dynamic peaks.

SourceTypePricePower into 9ΩHeadroomVerdict
Singxer SA-1desktop amplifier$6995.6 W+40 dBComfortable damping
Schiit Lyr+desktop amplifier$4495.1 W+39 dBComfortable
Topping A30 Prodesktop amplifier$2493.4 W+37 dBComfortable
SMSL SH-9desktop amplifier$2893.4 W+37 dBComfortable faint hiss
SMSL HO200desktop amplifier$3993.4 W+37 dBComfortable faint hiss
SMSL SP400desktop amplifier$5293.4 W+37 dBComfortable faint hiss
Wells Audio Milodesktop amplifier$17003.4 W+37 dBComfortable faint hiss
Benchmark HPA4desktop amplifier$34993.4 W+37 dBComfortable audible hiss
SMSL DO400desktop DAC/amp$5203.4 W+37 dBComfortable
Schiit Midgarddesktop amplifier$2193.1 W+37 dBComfortable
Schiit Asgard 3desktop amplifier$2792.8 W+36 dBComfortable faint hiss
Burson Soloist 3X GTdesktop amplifier$27992.8 W+36 dBComfortable faint hiss
Gustard H26desktop amplifier$10992.7 W+36 dBComfortable
iFi Pro iCAN Signaturedesktop amplifier$24992.7 W+36 dBComfortable
Chord Hugo TT 2desktop amplifier$50002.2 W+36 dBComfortable faint hiss
Topping L30 IIdesktop amplifier$1492.0 W+35 dBComfortable
Topping L50desktop amplifier$2292.0 W+35 dBComfortable
Topping A90 Discretedesktop amplifier$5991.9 W+35 dBComfortable
Schiit Magni Unitydesktop amplifier$1191.7 W+34 dBComfortable
SMSL HO100desktop amplifier$1601.7 W+34 dBComfortable faint hiss
Schiit Ragnarok 2desktop amplifier$14991.7 W+34 dBComfortable faint hiss
Schiit Magni Heresydesktop amplifier$991.6 W+34 dBComfortable faint hiss
Violectric V550 Prodesktop amplifier$36001.3 W+33 dBComfortable audible hiss
Geshelli Archel 3S Prodesktop amplifier$3701.1 W+33 dBComfortable
iFi iCAN Prodesktop amplifier$6001.1 W+33 dBComfortable audible hiss
Grace Design m900desktop amplifier$6601.1 W+32 dBComfortable audible hiss
Violectric V222desktop amplifier$1245900 mW+32 dBComfortable audible hiss
JDS Labs Element IVdesktop DAC/amp$549900 mW+32 dBComfortable faint hiss
xDuoo TA-30desktop amplifier$709844 mW+31 dBComfortable
Cayin HA-6Adesktop amplifier$1800844 mW+31 dBComfortable audible hiss, damping
Violectric V226desktop DAC/amp$1600844 mW+31 dBComfortable audible hiss
RME ADI-2 Pro FS Raudio interface$2199836 mW+31 dBComfortable
SPL Phonitor xedesktop amplifier$3000759 mW+31 dBComfortable audible hiss
JDS Labs Atom Amp 2desktop amplifier$129745 mW+31 dBComfortable faint hiss
Little Dot MK III SEdesktop amplifier$540703 mW+30 dBComfortable
Schiit Magni Pietydesktop amplifier$200675 mW+30 dBComfortable
Fiio K9 Prodesktop DAC/amp$799619 mW+30 dBComfortable faint hiss
Schiit Magni+desktop amplifier$109562 mW+29 dBComfortable faint hiss
Schiit Jotunheim 2desktop amplifier$399562 mW+29 dBComfortable
Topping A90desktop amplifier$499562 mW+29 dBComfortable
Headamp GS-X Minidesktop amplifier$1795540 mW+29 dBComfortable faint hiss
RME ADI-2 DAC FSaudio interface$1399529 mW+29 dBComfortable
Geshelli Archel Prodesktop amplifier$200506 mW+29 dBComfortable faint hiss
Topping DX5desktop DAC/amp$449506 mW+29 dBComfortable
iFi Zen CANdesktop amplifier$199450 mW+29 dBComfortable faint hiss
Lake People G111 Mk IIdesktop amplifier$629433 mW+28 dBComfortable audible hiss
FiiO Q7portable amplifier$750422 mW+28 dBComfortable audible hiss, damping
Schiit Vali 2+desktop amplifier$149422 mW+28 dBComfortable audible hiss, damping
Questyle CMA Fifteendesktop DAC/amp$2499422 mW+28 dBComfortable
FiiO M17portable player$1799416 mW+28 dBComfortable audible hiss
Benchmark DAC3 HGCdesktop DAC/amp$2399375 mW+28 dBComfortable
JDS Labs Element III MK2desktop DAC/amp$449366 mW+28 dBComfortable faint hiss
Lynx Aurora(n)audio interface$3499365 mW+28 dBComfortable
Fiio K7desktop DAC/amp$199343 mW+27 dBComfortable audible hiss
SSL 12audio interface$599333 mW+27 dBComfortable
Apogee Duet 3audio interface$649333 mW+27 dBComfortable
Matrix mini-i Pro 4desktop DAC/amp$1499327 mW+27 dBComfortable damping
Matrix element M2desktop DAC/amp$2999327 mW+27 dBComfortable damping
Ferrum OORdesktop amplifier$1995300 mW+27 dBComfortable faint hiss
iBasso DX180portable player$480295 mW+27 dBComfortable
iBasso DX260portable player$949295 mW+27 dBComfortable
xDuoo XD05 Balportable amplifier$499281 mW+26 dBComfortable
JDS Labs Atom+ (2nd gen)desktop amplifier$99281 mW+26 dBComfortable faint hiss
Lake People G103-S Mk IIdesktop amplifier$350281 mW+26 dBComfortable audible hiss
Schiit Mjolnir 3desktop amplifier$1199281 mW+26 dBComfortable audible hiss
SPL Phonitor sedesktop amplifier$1600281 mW+26 dBComfortable audible hiss
SPL Phonitor xdesktop amplifier$3200281 mW+26 dBComfortable audible hiss
Merging Anubisaudio interface$2790270 mW+26 dBComfortable
HiBy R6 Pro IIportable player$750211 mW+25 dBComfortable audible hiss
FiiO JM21portable player$199202 mW+25 dBComfortable faint hiss
FiiO BTR17Bluetooth receiver$199186 mW+25 dBComfortable audible hiss
FiiO M11Sportable player$499169 mW+24 dBComfortable faint hiss, damping
Fosi Audio K7desktop DAC/amp$199169 mW+24 dBComfortable audible hiss
FiiO KA15USB dongle$109163 mW+24 dBComfortable faint hiss
Woo Audio WA6desktop amplifier$1099163 mW+24 dBComfortable
Apogee Symphony Desktopaudio interface$1495156 mW+24 dBComfortable
Qudelix T71USB dongle$229141 mW+23 dBComfortable audible hiss
Bryston BHA-1desktop amplifier$2395141 mW+23 dBComfortable
FiiO KA11USB dongle$29138 mW+23 dBComfortable faint hiss
FiiO M23portable player$699132 mW+23 dBComfortable faint hiss
MOTU UltraLite-mk5audio interface$699132 mW+23 dBComfortable
Rupert Neve RNHPdesktop amplifier$699129 mW+23 dBComfortable audible hiss
SSL 2 MkIIaudio interface$229105 mW+22 dBComfortable
SSL 2 Plus MkIIaudio interface$299105 mW+22 dBComfortable
RME Babyface Pro FSaudio interface$899105 mW+22 dBComfortable audible hiss, damping
Astell&Kern SP3000portable player$370096 mW+22 dBComfortable audible hiss
MOTU M2audio interface$21994 mW+22 dBComfortable
MOTU M4audio interface$27994 mW+22 dBComfortable
MOTU M6audio interface$49994 mW+22 dBComfortable
FiiO BTR15Bluetooth receiver$10993 mW+22 dBComfortable faint hiss
FiiO BTR7Bluetooth receiver$19993 mW+22 dBComfortable audible hiss, damping
Astell&Kern SR35portable player$80084 mW+21 dBComfortable audible hiss
Questyle M15USB dongle$25084 mW+21 dBComfortable audible hiss
Tempotec Sonata BHD ProUSB dongle$6079 mW+21 dBComfortable audible hiss
Moondrop Moonriver 2 TiUSB dongle$19079 mW+21 dBComfortable faint hiss
iFi hip-dac 3portable amplifier$19979 mW+21 dBComfortable
FiiO KA5USB dongle$9976 mW+21 dBComfortable faint hiss
Bottlehead Crack (OTL kit)desktop amplifier$37576 mW+21 dBComfortable damping
ddHiFi TC44 Pro E2USB dongle$9970 mW+20 dBComfortable
Cayin N3 Ultraportable player$64970 mW+20 dBComfortable
FiiO BTR13Bluetooth receiver$5968 mW+20 dBComfortable faint hiss
Apogee BOOMaudio interface$29968 mW+20 dBComfortable
FiiO KA17USB dongle$14962 mW+20 dBComfortable faint hiss
RME Fireface UCX IIaudio interface$174959 mW+20 dBComfortable
iFi Zen DAC 3desktop DAC/amp$22959 mW+20 dBComfortable
Fosi Audio SK02desktop amplifier$10053 mW+19 dBComfortable
Arturia AudioFuse Rev2audio interface$59953 mW+19 dBComfortable damping
iFi GO bluBluetooth receiver$21946 mW+19 dBComfortable
iBasso DC-EliteUSB dongle$44946 mW+19 dBComfortable
Cayin RU7USB dongle$26945 mW+19 dBComfortable
Aiyima A2 Prodesktop DAC/amp$7542 mW+18 dBComfortable
Zoom UAC-232audio interface$39942 mW+18 dBComfortable damping
FiiO KA13USB dongle$7939 mW+18 dBComfortable audible hiss, damping
Shanling M3 Ultraportable player$47939 mW+18 dBComfortable
Arturia MiniFuse 2audio interface$14939 mW+18 dBComfortable damping
Hidizs S9 Pro PlusUSB dongle$13939 mW+18 dBComfortable
Shanling UA5USB dongle$25938 mW+18 dBComfortable audible hiss
Truthear SHIOUSB dongle$7035 mW+17 dBComfortable faint hiss
Tanchjim SpaceUSB dongle$7035 mW+17 dBComfortable faint hiss
Moondrop Dawn ProUSB dongle$7535 mW+17 dBComfortable faint hiss
iBasso DC04 ProUSB dongle$11935 mW+17 dBComfortable audible hiss
Astell&Kern HC3USB dongle$17935 mW+17 dBComfortable damping
Astell&Kern HC4USB dongle$21935 mW+17 dBComfortable
Qudelix 5KBluetooth receiver$10935 mW+17 dBComfortable audible hiss
Audient iD24audio interface$59935 mW+17 dBComfortable damping
ddHiFi TC44 ProUSB dongle$18934 mW+17 dBComfortable audible hiss
Sony NW-WM1AM2portable player$139934 mW+17 dBComfortable audible hiss
Audient iD4 MkIIaudio interface$19933 mW+17 dBComfortable
Audient iD14 MkIIaudio interface$34933 mW+17 dBComfortable
Schiit Valhalla 2desktop amplifier$34932 mW+17 dBComfortable damping
Shanling UP5Bluetooth receiver$17932 mW+17 dBComfortable audible hiss
ART HeadAmp 4 Prodesktop amplifier$13030 mW+17 dBComfortable damping
PreSonus Quantum ES 2audio interface$19930 mW+17 dBComfortable
Hidizs S9 ProUSB dongle$10928 mW+16 dBComfortable audible hiss
Little Dot MK IIdesktop amplifier$17628 mW+16 dBComfortable
iBasso DC03 ProUSB dongle$6928 mW+16 dBComfortable faint hiss
PreSonus Studio 68caudio interface$29924 mW+16 dBComfortable
Universal Audio Volt 2audio interface$19924 mW+16 dBComfortable
Universal Audio Volt 276audio interface$29924 mW+16 dBComfortable
Steinberg UR44Caudio interface$34922 mW+16 dBComfortable
Sony NW-A306portable player$35020 mW+15 dBComfortable audible hiss, damping
PreSonus HP4desktop amplifier$15020 mW+15 dBComfortable
Generic CX31993 donglesUSB dongle$1217 mW+14 dBComfortable audible hiss, damping
EarStudio ES100 MK2Bluetooth receiver$9017 mW+14 dBComfortable audible hiss
Focusrite Scarlett 4i4 4th genaudio interface$27916 mW+14 dBComfortable damping
Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 4th genaudio interface$69916 mW+14 dBComfortable damping
Steinberg IXO22audio interface$1199.0 mW+12 dBComfortable
Focusrite Scarlett Solo 4th genaudio interface$1398.7 mW+11 dBComfortable damping
Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 4th genaudio interface$1998.7 mW+11 dBComfortable damping
Apple USB-C dongle (US)USB dongle$98.4 mW+11 dBComfortable audible hiss
JadeAudio JA11USB dongle$208.4 mW+11 dBComfortable faint hiss
PreSonus Studio 24caudio interface$1497.6 mW+11 dBComfortable
Audient EVO 4audio interface$1296.7 mW+10 dBComfortable damping
Audient EVO 8audio interface$2496.7 mW+10 dBComfortable damping
Apple USB-C dongle (EU)USB dongle$94.2 mW+8 dBEnough audible hiss
Steinberg UR22Caudio interface$1993.4 mW+7 dBEnough

The three ways a source goes wrong

Hiss. At 122.5 dB/V these are sensitive enough to reveal a source's own noise floor. The noisiest source in the database, the Schiit Vali 2+, would put its hiss at roughly 30 dB SPL in these headphones — clearly audible in quiet passages. The hiss calculator lets you check your own amplifier's noise figure.

Output impedance. At 9Ω these want a source output impedance below 1.12Ω to satisfy the one-eighth rule. 26 of the 156 sources here miss it, the worst being the Bottlehead Crack (OTL kit) at 120.0Ω. Above that threshold the source starts shaping the frequency response. Check yours here.

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